Aikido vs Karate | Full Sparring and Exchange



This is the full sparring and exchange footage of Jesse Enkamp vs Rokas Leo, AKA Karate Nerd vs Martial Arts Journey.

Watch the video with commentary here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lKcb2ru7TE

Watch the previous vlog where Rokas taught functional aikido here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0_p0tfAHE

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  1. You put so much time into kotegaishi; I want to see what happens when you shift to making koshi nage practical. You already have a wrestling guy to help you practice shooting past the guard to that position, it seems.

  2. Something I noticed that Jesse picked up is your tendency to rely on a tight high guard for defense which shortens your reach for grappling. I wonder if you trained with a long guard, or even low guard and worked on head movement for defense, it would give you that extra reach from your guard and allow you to minimise a striker's ability to control distance.

  3. I heard that, Morihei Ueshiba said, "Aikido is 90% striking". Steven Seagal taught Anderson Silva a front kick. And with that front kick, he knocked someone out with it.

  4. I think Aikido is more effective as a means to deal with grappling and clinching situations in terms of the principles personally. I wouldn't expect an Aikido practitioner to know how to spar in general but i'm sure i'd be humbled by Aikido's principles during a grappling match. My advice, similar to Jesse's for someone who might be confused by Aikido or other similar martial arts is, just to find a great Karate dojo, especially if its an Okinawan because a lot of Aikido, Judo and kickboxing techniques can be found and achieved through that with the added bonus that you are ready for all eventualities and not stuck feeling discouraged or wondering if you system works or not.

  5. Really nice exploring! Lovely to see! I don’t know if you’re still in Sweden. But you are welcome to our dojo in Sundsvall about 350km north of Stockholm:)

    If you are interested in strikes in aikido I would recommend to you watch some of Nishio senseis aikido. He was very experienced in both karate and judo and incorporated it into his aikido. He was also a direct student to O-sensei.

  6. Hello, at no time do I see anything from AIKIDO, from your posture to the guard, the movements, nothing. I have been doing AIKIDO for 30 years and we did JIJU-WAZA and RANDORI in which a lot of more real fighting is done, in which AIKIDO techniques can be done. I think your intention is good but you lack real practice. Kind regards

  7. What caught my eye was that the aikido guy tries to grab his opponent's hands with no set up or feints and little to no variation. Wrestlers can get away with those flaws against fighters with little grappling experience by using fast entries, but the aikido guy is always in the backfoot, he seems to lack the tools to get in position to execute a throw or lock. Just speculating, but maybe by incoporating straight punches and kicks, favoring a southpaw stance and feinting more the aikido could pressure his opponent and create opportunities for hand fighting where he could show his aikido skills.

  8. 8 sessions of aikido, green belt in karate , 21 sessions in kendo, and 6 months in FMA.. and all of that were 30 yrs ago.. with that credential obviously i am not an expert.. but because of dunning krugger effect I will give my 2 cents

    If i am going to fight someone using aikido, i think i will capitalize more on the circular and side movement to create an opening where i can execute my techniques. rather than try to close the distance by moving forward, I would rather wait for his attacks and move sideways then pivot.

  9. maai is also discussed in aikido literature, and don't you think without the idea of strikes being present it would greatly affect distance of an attacker. all the same great job on your dedication to applying your skill set.as i see it these arts aren't just measured by effectiveness when used by all people but how those arts and philosophies sync with a persons own moral compass. basically how can i expect to master something that goes against my own moral code or what i see as my nature. regardless thank you for the work you are doing

  10. After hearing your reflexions on the sparring, I feel it's not so much (though it is too) a matter or Jesse managing distance, but you not commiting to the grapples enough. You should utilize your mass, your size, when Jesse is mid-kick, to destabilize and clinch. From there you can grapple into your Aikido techniques, but you always backed off as if a clinch was his best position, when it should be yours. The one moment you did was the actual moment you caught him and did a BJJ technique as you said. You comitted and you caught him in a grapple.
    Maybe that's not your intent, but more open grapples like traditional Aikido… but then just then proves what we already know: traditional Aikido is useless.

  11. I think aikido is founded on the premise that your opponent is drunk, not trained in other martial arts and has no fighting experience. It seems to rely on the idea that the opponent will leave their arms out and over commit to every punch and Kick. This is very unrealistic. Most people will throw a punch or kick and snap it back, making it very hard to catch, lock up etc.

  12. No position means no aikido. Either establish threat or bait into position. If you can't strike and your opponent is being too nice liked Jesse, of course there's no position for any meaningful grappling including aikido

  13. Jeese Enkamp 😄!!!

    I think you should do it on "leitai", opponent can't walk away so freely, then grabs have a better chance, or opponent fall down, what's considered as a mini knock down (in real life you get injuried when you walk back).

  14. I know about a man who can punch holes in trees and cut the head of someone with his foot. He can't compete because its so dangerous what he has learned. He lived in the Vietnam jungle and learned that. I think it was called stone karate. Do you have any information about that? My neighbours uncle's friend met him and saw it but I can not find any information on Internet. He worked for the CIA or something like that. Killed many people in caves

  15. I noticed that Jesse has a very flat footed style of karate for whatever reason… in the style of karate I practice (Goju-Ryu) we almost always stay on the balls of our feet. Just a small difference but in my experience it is a bit more functional against other martial arts styles. But that’s just me 😊

  16. Watching this brings to mind Shoji Nishio Sensei who before aikido he studied judo (6th Dan Kodokan Judo) and karate (5th Dan Shindō jinen-ryū) as well very experienced in the staff, spear, and sword. He merged his knowledge into his own specific aikido style. While unfortunately he has passed away now, it wouldn’t be hard to track down some of his senior students. There are a number of the old guard with many skills, often starting in judo. I guess you can continue rather randomly experiment like this, but if you were really interested in figuring out Aikido, would seem to make sense to have explored more what is already known rather than attempting to reinvent the wheel. What you’ve shown here just demonstrates you haven’t learned enough to be running around claiming to teach “functional aikido”.

  17. Jesse’s brother is a full-time MMA guy and they play, so Jesse is not exactly a karate-ka without experience dealing with grapplers or grappling rooted arts.

  18. Both are a waste of time tbh..
    Learn striking from boxing, kickboxing, muay thai.
    Learn grappling from Judo, BJJ, Wrestling. And put them together.
    One style has way too many drawbacks to invest all your time in.

  19. The old school aikijutsu and ju jutsu (the original old school spelling for jiu jitsu) books show and teach atemi-waza (strikes/kicks) in them. Atemi-waza were used to get in close to the opponent so that you could transition into the aikijutsu and ju jutsu control techniques from there. Both modern judo and modern aikido schools have mostly removed atemi-waza from their syllabi. Just like most modern karate schools have removed grappling from their syllabi. Judo does not allow strikes in their tournaments. So they quit focusing on them. Karate banned almost all grappling from their tournaments. So karate schools quit focusing on grappling. The arts became stylized and sterilized (although some would prefer the term "specialized" to retain their "credibility"). Aikido, like judo became a semi-passive martial "arts" when they transitioned from a "jutsu" to a "do" for philosophical reasons. Hence you have aikido "the way of harmony" and judo "the gentle way". Karate jutsu became karatedo. The arts became more concerned with perfection of character, harmony and peace, etc. rather than perfection in the effectiveness of their combat.

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